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<\/a>Aron Taylor @XCnation, on , said:<\/p>

\nDavis is very good, they just ran 17:45 3-mile team average, only '99 Bingham, UT has done that at Altitude! Oh, and they also won the national team title...is it possible that Davis can win NXN?
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\nInteresting you asked that, Aron, since you were just informing me yesterday that you thought there was "No metric on earth that would state Davis as US#1"
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\nBut to answer your question, yes, I think it is possible Davis can win NXN.","date_added":"Oct 11th 2013, 1:26am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":183937,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"875224":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"875224","comment_id":"875224","member_id":"43715","comment":"Or maybe it's a third option:
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\nGriak had 50 teams in the meet, so the points can add up VERY quickly. Yes, Wayzata is very good and very deep. They are ranked #6 because they are very good. Their depth is a great plus, it can protect them from "off races" by their scorers.
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\nIf Cherry Creek's #2 raced where she normally would, that would cut their time by 12 seconds\/runner (or so), bringing the gap down to 15 seconds\/runner. Yes, Wayzata would still have had 7 runners ahead of Cherry Creek's #3 - Wayzata is very deep. That's also not unprecedented - in the 2010 NXN race, Runner-up Saratoga had 6 runners ahead of third place Saugus' #4, and they were only separated by 13 points (104-117). Not QUITE the same, but you see the point (I hope). Cherry Creek's #5 would have been only 25 seconds from Wayzata's #5, and their #4 within 15 seconds. Certainly that's enough to put Wayzata ahead of Cherry Creek (and they are), but just how much space do you think that merits when you're talking about top teams?
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\nAs for Fort Collins, on a normal day I'd say FC's #5 is about on par with Cherry Creek's #3 - the same one that finished 6 seconds behind Wayzata's #5. I don't think that represents a significant difference, either.","date_added":"Oct 5th 2013, 12:48am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":183937,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"874957":{"pb_id":"50393","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"874957","comment_id":"874957","member_id":"50393","comment":"As always, it's fun to see the results of the hard work you put into these rankings. Nit-picking them is...well, I guess a luxury we all get when you put these out there. So here's mine.
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\nIt seems to me that either Wayzata is ranked quite low, or the Colorado schools are ranked a bit high.
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\nAt Griak<\/a>, Wayzata was about 30 seconds per girl faster than Cherry Creek. (Creek was without their #2, but even if she finished side by side with Colter, the gap is still 50-ish points, which seems quite significant in my eyes) Furthermore, Wayzata's 7th runner finished one place behind Creeks #2 (or 3 if they had their #2)
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\nCreek, FoCo, and Monarch have done nothing to distinctly separate themselves from each other. At John Martin<\/a>, Creek and FoCo had the same pack time. The meets beforehand happened long ago that they are likely (and for good reason) not relevant.","date_added":"Oct 4th 2013, 4:05pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":183937,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Sean O'Day","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=50393","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/Sean-O--39-Day.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1206410"},"874406":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"874406","comment_id":"874406","member_id":"43715","comment":"

<\/a>waveown, on , said:<\/p>

\nThanks for the quick reply! I was just curious because in the SW region, Park City went from 2nd to 7th in one week. Is it because their top runner hasn't been running? Whatever the case, the SW region has 7 in the top 25 and 9 in the top 40!
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\nYes. As I mentioned on the boys thread, my rankings look at what each athlete has done in the last 3 weeks, the last 4 weeks, the last 5 weeks (and so on). It's been more than 3 weeks since Park City's soccer athlete McKenzie Bothner has raced, so if she races this weekend at their home invite, you can expect they'll move up. (Side-note: She is still included, but her average is placing her as their fifth runner half a minute behind their #4 simply because she hasn't raced recently, but if you look at their season best ratings she'd clearly be running with or ahead of their front trio).
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\nThe Southwest is a very strong region, particularly on the girls side.","date_added":"Oct 4th 2013, 2:06am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":183937,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"874402":{"pb_id":"50765","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"874402","comment_id":"874402","member_id":"50765","comment":"Thanks for the quick reply! I was just curious because in the SW region, Park City went from 2nd to 7th in one week. Is it because their top runner hasn't been running? Whatever the case, the SW region has 7 in the top 25 and 9 in the top 40!","date_added":"Oct 4th 2013, 1:51am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":183937,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-50765.jpg","pb_title":"waveown","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=50765","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/waveown.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1215904"},"874397":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"874397","comment_id":"874397","member_id":"43715","comment":"I maintain the same regional order in the national rankings (regional rankings influence the limit of how high a team is ranked nationally - the MW#4 team won't be ranked ahead of the MW#3 team, for instance, even if the MW#4 team would score better in an NXN caliber meet versus an NXR caliber meet).
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\nSo, yes, if the region is deep enough, one could easily look at the national rankings and pick out what the regional rankings would be if they were to be published this week.
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\nStatistics background: well, math was my strong suit in school, and I'm only 26 and haven't had time to have a full-time career in another professional field (this obviously takes up all the time I can handle in the fall), so my only background in statistics is just math courses in school, and what I've been able to learn and teach myself since I started doing this back in 2004.","date_added":"Oct 4th 2013, 1:28am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":183937,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"874395":{"pb_id":"50765","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"874395","comment_id":"874395","member_id":"50765","comment":"Thanks for doing the rankings, Rob! It seems like a lot of work, but also a lot of fun.
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\nLast week the regional rankings came out. Could we pick out new regional rankings based on this list, or does the combination of all the regions shuffle things around on the national level?
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\nAlso, what kind of statistics background do you have? Just curious...","date_added":"Oct 4th 2013, 1:16am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":183937,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-50765.jpg","pb_title":"waveown","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=50765","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/waveown.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1215904"},"874272":{"pb_id":"50911","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"874272","comment_id":"874272","member_id":"50911","comment":"BOOM...NO PRISONERS!!!","date_added":"Oct 3rd 2013, 7:27pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":183937,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Jonneboy","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=50911","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=50911","pb_wally_id":"1221196"}},"last_id":"874272","url":"comments.php?item_type=news&item_id=183937&item_url=gprofile.php?mgroup_id=44531"}