{"comments":{"926102":{"pb_id":"45736","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"926102","comment_id":"926102","member_id":"45736","comment":"This weekend's NXN, FL and CIF results certainly stirred up the boys mix. It may be time that Braude and Haney change places. Henderson should move up. Burke fits in around 12-15...field for boys FLNE did not seem as strong this year, Crew heading from northeast to Portland looks stronger than those going to San Diego...some of the Southern boys deserve top 30 consideration. The California kids appear to be sorting themselves out but still a large group of contenders. Could be a vintage year or a so-so one for the Californians. Expect good things from the Calif. teams in Portland, less so for the individual at San Diego, although they will have the close-to-home edge.","date_added":"Dec 1st 2013, 8:40am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196366,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Bsarno1","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=45736","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/Bsarno1.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1116260"},"922664":{"pb_id":"4588","pb_type":"members","likes":"1","parent_id":"0","pid":"922664","comment_id":"922664","member_id":"4588","comment":"
<\/a>MatthewXCountry, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>watchout, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>MatthewXCountry, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>DougB, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>MatthewXCountry, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>Idaho4177, on , said:<\/p>
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\nSo true Matthew! California is crazy deep with frontrunners this year. I count 22 Californians who have broken 15:00 on Mt. Sac this year (see my post here<\/a>). FLW is going to be a madhouse!","date_added":"Nov 26th 2013, 12:07am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":{"wally_id":"388","email_settings":"8191","email":"scott.joerger@gmail.com","address":"ScottJoerger","gender":"m","member_id":"4588","member_name":"Scott Joerger","avatar_location":"av-4588.jpg","avatar_type":"upload","avatar":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-4588.jpg"},"can_delete":false,"item_id":196366,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-4588.jpg","pb_title":"Scott Joerger","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=4588","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/ScottJoerger.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"388"},"920128":{"pb_id":"49498","pb_type":"members","likes":"1","parent_id":"0","pid":"920128","comment_id":"920128","member_id":"49498","comment":"
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\nI know I've said this before, but...
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\nCalifornia should have it's own Foot Locker region. It is plenty good enough, and so is the rest of the West. If there is any doubt, they could always move Colorado to the West. (And that would allow for non-CA athletes out west to compete at both NXN and FLN - seems like a good move for Foot Locker to me!!)
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\nAnd it just gets crazier, Luna defeats both Tamagno ad Gidebuday at SS finals today, Ogden and Brandt defeat De La Rosa and Rocha. Its almost like we are using dice to determine the top 10 or so in CA. This is just insane. After today, I think Corcoran might be the only runner in CA to have a winning head to head record againt the majority of the top 10 boys. Forget FL west, even the state divisional races are going to be amazing<\/strong>.","date_added":"Nov 23rd 2013, 10:13pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196366,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"MatthewXCountry","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=49498","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/MatthewXCountry.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1194309"},"919672":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"919672","comment_id":"919672","member_id":"43715","comment":"
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\nAmen.
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\nI know I've said this before, but...
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\nCalifornia should have it's own Foot Locker region. It is plenty good enough, and so is the rest of the West. If there is any doubt, they could always move Colorado to the West. (And that would allow for non-CA athletes out west to compete at both NXN and FLN - seems like a good move for Foot Locker to me!!)","date_added":"Nov 23rd 2013, 5:03am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196366,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"919658":{"pb_id":"49498","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"919658","comment_id":"919658","member_id":"49498","comment":"
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\nI also just realized that Clovis may have been another big meet that perhaps helped those like Rocha get on the list and keep Correa off (Correa won his heat, but in a far slower time than the top guys in the seeded heat). I agree CA is extremely deep. When we look at my list above we might think oh man they all beat each other in somewhat unpredictable ways, so maybe all of them shouldn't be on this list. Then you look at the times they are running and are like wow, what a deep year! Footlocker west is going to be interesting.","date_added":"Nov 23rd 2013, 3:41am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196366,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"MatthewXCountry","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=49498","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/MatthewXCountry.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1194309"},"919615":{"pb_id":"44418","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"919615","comment_id":"919615","member_id":"44418","comment":"
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\nSteve Correa's Record against the following athletes (wins for Steve - wins for other guy)
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\nPhillip Rocha 3 - 0
\nEstevan De La Rosa 2 - 1
\nSteven Fahy 1 - 0
\nSydney Gidabuday 1 - 1
\nBlake Haney 1 - 1
\nDavid Luna 1 - 1
\nTal Braude 0 - 1
\nAustin Tamagno 0 - 2
\nGarrett Corcoran 0 - 2
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\nNote that Correa's performance at Laguna Hills was faster than many of the historical greats on that slow course, including Ammar Moussa - who ran on that course 3 times.
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\nWebb's Record against the following athletes (wins for Webb - wins for other guy)
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\nSteven Fahy 1 - 0
\nBlake Haney 1 - 1
\nDavid Luna 1 - 1
\nEstevan De La Rosa 1 - 1
\nPhillip Rocha 1 - 1
\nAustin Tamagno 1 - 1
\nTal Braude 0 - 1
\nSydney Gidabuday 0 - 2
\nGarrett Corcoran 0 - 2
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\nHere is another way of making the comparison
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\nBlake Haney (1st, 1st, 14th)
\nGarrett Corcoran (3rd, --, 2nd) - (Woodbridge, Stanford, Mt. Sac)
\nTal Braude (--, 9th, 1st)
\nPhillip Rocha (14th, 7th, 8th)
\nSteven Fahy (--, 3rd, 11th)
\nDavid Luna (8th,--, 4th)
\nEstevan De La Rosa (2nd, 4th, 100+)
\nAustin Tamagno (6th, --, 3rd)
\nSydney Gidabuday (4th,--, 9th)
\nBlair Hurlock (--,5th,6th)
\nSteve Correa (7th, --, 7th)
\nWebb (5th , --, 10th)<\/strong>
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\nI believe Haney and Corcoran look to be a bit stronger than the rest, but after that they all look very similar. To me it feels like everyone in CA is very invincible and it just depends on who is having the better day. Very few of these guys have perfect records against most the people on this list.
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\nLove this post, very informative. You made a great case for both of those guys. Correa is definitely on my radar more than Webb because of his early season win over De La Rosa, which sort of blew up my preseason ranking! I'm looking forward to seeing how these championship meets in California go, and beyond with post-season meets. California is very deep and you're right that Haney and Corcoran appear to be a slight cut above. The honorable mentions list probably doesn't get as much thought as I should give it. There are a lot of state champions in that HM list and I try to recognize them even if I can't quite fit them into the top 30. The cut off point of being named or unnamed in the HM list is always going to be difficult and leave someone feeling left out. If Correa and Webb finish strong and beat those guys in these remaining meets ... I won't miss them.","date_added":"Nov 23rd 2013, 2:50am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":{"wally_id":"1082747","email_settings":"4294967295","email":"dbind4@aol.com","address":"DougB","gender":"u","member_id":"44418","member_name":"DougB","avatar_location":"av-44418.jpg","avatar_type":"upload","avatar":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-44418.jpg"},"can_delete":false,"item_id":196366,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-44418.jpg","pb_title":"DougB","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=44418","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/DougB.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1082747"},"919614":{"pb_id":"49498","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"919614","comment_id":"919614","member_id":"49498","comment":"I find it interesting that Steve Correa of San Pedro and Caleb Webb of Big Bear didn't make the honorable mention list given the fact that they have favorable records against the others listed in the HM section they have competed against.
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\nSteve Correa's Record against the following athletes (wins for Steve - wins for other guy)
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\nPhillip Rocha 3 - 0
\nEstevan De La Rosa 2 - 1
\nSteven Fahy 1 - 0
\nSydney Gidabuday 1 - 1
\nBlake Haney 1 - 1
\nDavid Luna 1 - 1
\nTal Braude 0 - 1
\nAustin Tamagno 0 - 2
\nGarrett Corcoran 0 - 2
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\nNote that Correa's performance at Laguna Hills was faster than many of the historical greats on that slow course, including Ammar Moussa - who ran on that course 3 times.
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\nWebb's Record against the following athletes (wins for Webb - wins for other guy)
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\nSteven Fahy 1 - 0
\nBlake Haney 1 - 1
\nDavid Luna 1 - 1
\nEstevan De La Rosa 1 - 1
\nPhillip Rocha 1 - 1
\nAustin Tamagno 1 - 1
\nTal Braude 0 - 1
\nSydney Gidabuday 0 - 2
\nGarrett Corcoran 0 - 2
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\nHere is another way of making the comparison
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\nBlake Haney (1st, 1st, 14th)
\nGarrett Corcoran (3rd, --, 2nd) - (Woodbridge, Stanford, Mt. Sac)
\nTal Braude (--, 9th, 1st)
\nPhillip Rocha (14th, 7th, 8th)
\nSteven Fahy (--, 3rd, 11th)
\nDavid Luna (8th,--, 4th)
\nEstevan De La Rosa (2nd, 4th, 100+)
\nAustin Tamagno (6th, --, 3rd)
\nSydney Gidabuday (4th,--, 9th)
\nBlair Hurlock (--,5th,6th)
\nSteve Correa (7th, --, 7th)
\nWebb (5th , --, 10th)<\/strong>
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\nI believe Haney and Corcoran look to be a bit stronger than the rest, but after that they all look very similar. To me it feels like everyone in CA is very invincible and it just depends on who is having the better day. Very few of these guys have perfect records against most the people on this list.","date_added":"Nov 23rd 2013, 2:31am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196366,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"MatthewXCountry","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=49498","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/MatthewXCountry.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1194309"},"919559":{"pb_id":"44418","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"919559","comment_id":"919559","member_id":"44418","comment":"
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\n#15 Elijah Armstrong actually won the Idaho Class 4A race, Honorable mention Andrew Rafla won the 5A title.
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\nThat's what I get for relying on my sometimes faulty memory. Thanks. Fixed. Impressive run by Rafla at NXN NW, btw, definitely caught my attention.","date_added":"Nov 22nd 2013, 11:48pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":{"wally_id":"1082747","email_settings":"4294967295","email":"dbind4@aol.com","address":"DougB","gender":"u","member_id":"44418","member_name":"DougB","avatar_location":"av-44418.jpg","avatar_type":"upload","avatar":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-44418.jpg"},"can_delete":false,"item_id":196366,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-44418.jpg","pb_title":"DougB","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=44418","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/DougB.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1082747"},"919558":{"pb_id":"44418","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"919558","comment_id":"919558","member_id":"44418","comment":"