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<\/a>Tom Keyes, on , said:<\/p>

\nIf F-M doesn't win I will eat my guitar.
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\nQFE","date_added":"Dec 3rd 2013, 4:01pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":{"wally_id":"35","email_settings":"7168","email":"chrisnickinson@gmail.com","address":"chrisnickinson","gender":"m","member_id":"3026","member_name":"Chris Nickinson","avatar_location":"av-3026.jpg","avatar_type":"upload","avatar":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-3026.jpg"},"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-3026.jpg","pb_title":"Chris Nickinson","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=3026","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/chrisnickinson.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"35"},"927482":{"pb_id":"43834","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"927482","comment_id":"927482","member_id":"43834","comment":"BTW. The race temp will be about 25 to 30 degrees.","date_added":"Dec 3rd 2013, 6:22am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Tom Keyes","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43834","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43834","pb_wally_id":"1109012"},"927480":{"pb_id":"43834","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"927480","comment_id":"927480","member_id":"43834","comment":"If F-M doesn't win I will eat my guitar.","date_added":"Dec 3rd 2013, 6:20am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Tom Keyes","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43834","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43834","pb_wally_id":"1109012"},"927468":{"pb_id":"10145","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"927468","comment_id":"927468","member_id":"10145","comment":"

<\/a>Heracles, on , said:<\/p>

\nFeels good to look at stats and figures again :). Haven't really been looking at things much this season, but recently I have started looking at some things since Nationals is coming soon.
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\nI'll post some thoughts of mine from some quick dabbling:
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\nI'm not too sure what the consensus is on NY right now, but I think FM and Aurora are probably at least near (if not stronger) than the 2012 teams (which finished 1st and 4th). Saratoga looks weaker to me only because they don't have a solid front runner this year. I would be surprised if both NY teams weren't in the top 10, and in fact I think FM will finish first (hold on with Great Oak and California).
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\nCarroll--- I won't predict a podium finish for either side. Their boys are reminiscent of last year (very strong top 4, really far back #5--- we saw what happens when one of said top 4 finishes way off mark), and their girls 4-5, are slightly too far back.
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\nThe Woodland girls are really good, but I always feel they never excel on a course like Portland Meadows. They obviously had a really poor race at State, so here's to hoping they show another solid performance like the one at NXN South at Nationals.
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\nNew Braunfels is pretty good. They had an offrace at state and still managed to lose by only 6 points--- their depth is not too bad, and their #1-2 are actually really good. I'm a little surprised seeing some ratings having Paige somewhat low. I think there is some course\/condition inflation's going around here, which is a problem. I feel like if any Texas athletes are being underrated (the same old gripe that everyone chips in on, xx being underrated!), it is most definitely the girls. I'll also spit it out, I think Great Oaks is a solid team and all, but I do think in general the California teams are overrated. I know we don't have much of comparison seeing as only Strake Jesuit ran at Stanford (very late September), and that Great Oaks ran without a valuable top 5 runner at Nike South (but to ignore Braunfels holding back #2 and #3 would also be unfair, though this was early October), but besides that, I'm still not convinced Great Oaks #4 and #5 is part of a team that will win nationals--- nor am I saying Braunfels > Great Oak. I think Great Oak will be in the top 5, while Braunfels will be trying their best to hit top 12.
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\nI think FLSouth gave a slightly better idea that maybe some things are being overlooked. When I saw Paige was only an Honorable mention in the individual lists I knew something was wrong.
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\nGreat Oak. There is only one tree. I believe that is part of the reason it is considered "Great"...
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\nI do agree that the speed ratings for Nike South were slower than deserved. I believe Watchout thought the course was different than it really was. It was a great meet though. Texas got to see our 2014 team in action early... ;)
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\nDoug","date_added":"Dec 3rd 2013, 4:26am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Doug Soles","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=10145","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/Doug-Soles.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"12696"},"927403":{"pb_id":"53226","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"927403","comment_id":"927403","member_id":"53226","comment":"

<\/a>watchout, on , said:<\/p>

\nHeracles! Welcome back.
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\nI posted the ratings on the NXN South Preview thread: http:\/\/www.runnerspa...ndpost&p=920017<\/a>
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\nFeels good to look at stats and figures again :). Haven't really been looking at things much this season, but recently I have started looking at some things since Nationals is coming soon.
\n
\n
\nI'll post some thoughts of mine from some quick dabbling:
\n
\nI'm not too sure what the consensus is on NY right now, but I think FM and Aurora are probably at least near (if not stronger) than the 2012 teams (which finished 1st and 4th). Saratoga looks weaker to me only because they don't have a solid front runner this year. I would be surprised if both NY teams weren't in the top 10, and in fact I think FM will finish first (hold on with Great Oak and California).
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\nCarroll--- I won't predict a podium finish for either side. Their boys are reminiscent of last year (very strong top 4, really far back #5--- we saw what happens when one of said top 4 finishes way off mark), and their girls 4-5, are slightly too far back.
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\nThe Woodland girls are really good, but I always feel they never excel on a course like Portland Meadows. They obviously had a really poor race at State, so here's to hoping they show another solid performance like the one at NXN South at Nationals.
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\nNew Braunfels is pretty good. They had an offrace at state and still managed to lose by only 6 points--- their depth is not too bad, and their #1-2 are actually really good. I'm a little surprised seeing some ratings having Paige somewhat low. I think there is some course\/condition inflation's going around here, which is a problem. I feel like if any Texas athletes are being underrated (the same old gripe that everyone chips in on, xx being underrated!), it is most definitely the girls. I'll also spit it out, I think Great Oaks is a solid team and all, but I do think in general the California teams are overrated. I know we don't have much of comparison seeing as only Strake Jesuit ran at Stanford (very late September), and that Great Oaks ran without a valuable top 5 runner at Nike South (but to ignore Braunfels holding back #2 and #3 would also be unfair, though this was early October), but besides that, I'm still not convinced Great Oaks #4 and #5 is part of a team that will win nationals--- nor am I saying Braunfels > Great Oak. I think Great Oak will be in the top 5, while Braunfels will be trying their best to hit top 12.
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\nI think FLSouth gave a slightly better idea that maybe some things are being overlooked. When I saw Paige was only an Honorable mention in the individual lists I knew something was wrong.","date_added":"Dec 2nd 2013, 11:58pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Heracles","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=53226","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/Heracles.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1336916"},"926438":{"pb_id":"53089","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"926438","comment_id":"926438","member_id":"53089","comment":"

<\/a>watchout, on , said:<\/p>

\nMy rankings...
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\nThanks for the explanation.","date_added":"Dec 2nd 2013, 4:29am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"dra","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=53089","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/drarcher.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1334077"},"926391":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"926391","comment_id":"926391","member_id":"43715","comment":"

<\/a>Heracles, on , said:<\/p>

\nCan you link me your speed ratings on NXN South for boys & girls?
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\nHeracles! Welcome back.
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\nI posted the ratings on the NXN South Preview thread: http:\/\/www.runnerspa...ndpost&p=920017<\/a>","date_added":"Dec 2nd 2013, 1:16am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"926323":{"pb_id":"53226","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"926323","comment_id":"926323","member_id":"53226","comment":"Can you link me your speed ratings on NXN South for boys & girls?","date_added":"Dec 1st 2013, 10:19pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Heracles","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=53226","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/Heracles.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1336916"},"925411":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"925411","comment_id":"925411","member_id":"43715","comment":"

<\/a>drarcher, on , said:<\/p>

\nLooking at the results it looks like Great Oaks still ran 4 of their top 5 and their top 3 so I'm not sure how much of a difference not having their 4, 6, and 7 runners makes? But that is not my point anyways.
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\nMy point is it is the only comparison we have of a team outside of the south like Great Oaks running with south teams. You have a team like Southlake Carroll who was right behind Great Oaks then and wins a state championship not even on the list? Or the Woodlands who was runner up at Nike South Regional and not on the list. I am just curious how that is? You have 12 other California teams on the list which means you have somehow justified that all those teams are better than two teams that were highly competitive with your number 1 overall. Not trying to argue, I just keep reading "the south is down" and don't see the justification for that thought based on real races. I was hoping you could help me understand.
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\nMy rankings have never been about what happens in ONE race*, which is what the Nike South Invitational was.
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\nGreat Oak's championship-weighted, season weighted, Nike South, and CIF-SS Finals ratings (in that order):
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\n141.1\t141.6\tDestiny Collins\t10\tGreat Oak CA\t134.8\t140.7
\n138.2\t138.8\tHaley Dorris\t12\tGreat Oak CA\t128.4\t137.6
\n132.2\t132.4\tAshley Helbig\t12\tGreat Oak CA\tFALSE\t132.0
\n126.0\t126.0\tDesiree Stinger\t10\tGreat Oak CA\t108.9\t126.0
\n122.6\t122.6\tKiyena Beatty\t9\tGreat Oak CA\t104.7\t122.6
\n118.4\t119.1\tChristian Calain\t12\tGreat Oak CA\tFALSE\t117.7
\n110.0\t110.0\tEvelyn Mandel\t9\tGreat Oak CA\tFALSE\tFALSE
\n106.2\t107.4\tMaiya Larsen\t11\tGreat Oak CA\tFALSE\t105.1
\n105.8\t105.8\tTaylor Walker\t10\tGreat Oak CA\t103.4\tFALSE
\n101.8\t101.8\tEmily Clause\t10\tGreat Oak CA\t108.8\tFALSE
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\n("FALSE" means they didn't run at the race)
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\nSo... #3 Ashley Helbig didn't run at Nike South, nor did #6 Christian Calain or #7 Evelyn Mandel (or #8 Maiya Larsen)
\nWhich means that Great Oak ran who is currently (in my rankings at least) their #1, #2, #4, #5, #9 runners at Nike South.
\nSeveral of those runners have improved SIGNIFICANTLY. In these ratings, 1 point ~ 3 seconds on an "average" 5k course (such as a dry Portland Meadows). So #1 has improved by ~18 seconds, #2 by ~27, #3 infinitely (since she didn't run at Nike South), #4 by ~51 seconds, and #5 by ~54 seconds.
\nThat's a HUGE improvement, kudos to the Great Oak coaches and athletes for making that happen! (although part of that is probably the difference between running on a course they've never seen, versus one they see a couple times every year and as such are much more prepared to run better in comparison)<\/em>
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\n
\nSO#3 Southlake Carroll for comparison (the additional column being NXN-South, and TX State instead of CIF-SS Finals obviously):
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\n129.1\t130.1\tAntigone Archer\t10\tSouthlake Carroll TX\t124.5\t129.4\t128.2
\n123.7\t125.8\tSamantha Young\t12\tSouthlake Carroll TX\t126.5\t119.0\t124.8
\n122.1\t123.2\tKatie Burnham\t12\tSouthlake Carroll TX\t111.9\t118.9\t122.9
\n95.9\t102.2\tKayli Jones\t10\tSouthlake Carroll TX\t75.0\t74.0\t102.2
\n90.9\t95.8\tArianna Lopez\t9\tSouthlake Carroll TX\t96.7\t76.3\t94.8
\n90.8\t110.5\tMoriah Dadson\t12\tSouthlake Carroll TX\t114.1\t105.9\t69.7
\n84.2\t85.4\tHaley McFadden\t10\tSouthlake Carroll TX\t83.7\t80.5\t85.2
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\nSouthlake Carroll ran their entire top 7 at Nike South.
\nWhile some runners have improved (notably, #4 Kayli Jones, #3 Katie Burnahm, and also #1 Antigone Archer), others haven't run as well (#2 Samantha Young and #5 Arianna Lopez about where they were, while #6 Moriah Dadson - who scored for them at Nike South, hasn't run as well and isn't in their top-5 anymore)
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\nSO#2 The Woodlands for comparison (the additional column being NXN-South, and TX State instead of CIF-SS Finals obviously):
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\n133.4\t134.4\tMadi McLellan\t12\tThe Woodlands TX\t127.4\tFALSE\t132.9
\n119.2\t120.7\tKara Zuspan\t12\tThe Woodlands TX\t117.1\t120.7\t117.3
\n114.0\t117.4\tAbbey Piontek\t11\tThe Woodlands TX\t114.6\t102.3\t117.4
\n107.9\t111.7\tAshley Jansen\t12\tThe Woodlands TX\t113.6\t103.3\t108.3
\n100.6\t102.1\tMeghan Brown\t11\tThe Woodlands TX\t103.7\tFALSE\t99.9
\n94.1\t108.1\tLindsay Creasman\t9\tThe Woodlands TX\t76.8\t86.7\t91.5
\n91.3\t99.3\tLauren Porter\t12\tThe Woodlands TX\t89.8\t91.6\t87.1
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\n
\nOnce again, The Woodlands ran their entire top 7 at Nike South.
\nOnce again, much less improvement since that race compared to Great Oak.
\n#1 Madi McLellan ran a bit better at NXN-South than she did at Nike South, and #2 Kara Zuspan ran better at TX State but not Nike South.
\nBut on the flip side, #4 Ashley Jansen didn't run better at either races, nor did #5 Meghan Brown.
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\n
\n
\nTaking only ONE race into account, it would make it seem like the Texas schools are just as good as the #1 ranked team in the nation.
\nHowever, on closer inspection of how the teams have progressed, and how the athletes have run in other races, makes it clear that Great Oak is better than they showed at Nike South (and so is Southlake Carroll, though to a lesser extent) while The Woodlands has pretty much been around the same level.
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\nOne race in early October should never dictate rankings in late November. Great Oak is #1 because of what they have done lately; Southlake Carroll and The Woodlands haven't been as good lately, and as such aren't as highly ranked nationally.<\/strong>
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\n*Of course, some races take on greater weighting than others - if you don't run well at your State, NXN Regional or NXN National races, then you'll get penalized, and likewise if you haven't run as well in the last 3 weeks as you had previously then you'll also get penalized (to a lesser degree). I try to follow head-to-head results once you get to meets like State, NXR and NXN, but I also try not to go strictly by them - which is why you can sometimes see a team finish, say, 14th at NXN and after winning their NXN Regional, and still stay ahead of a team that finished 12th at NXN but second at the same NXN Regional - if the teams were close enough at NXN and the difference between them, when taking the rest of their races into account, was large enough to justify a change in the rankings.","date_added":"Nov 29th 2013, 10:25pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"925393":{"pb_id":"53089","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"925393","comment_id":"925393","member_id":"53089","comment":"Looking at the results it looks like Great Oaks still ran 4 of their top 5 and their top 3 so I'm not sure how much of a difference not having their 4, 6, and 7 runners makes? But that is not my point anyways.
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\nMy point is it is the only comparison we have of a team outside of the south like Great Oaks running with south teams. You have a team like Southlake Carroll who was right behind Great Oaks then and wins a state championship not even on the list? Or the Woodlands who was runner up at Nike South Regional and not on the list. I am just curious how that is? You have 12 other California teams on the list which means you have somehow justified that all those teams are better than two teams that were highly competitive with your number 1 overall. Not trying to argue, I just keep reading "the south is down" and don't see the justification for that thought based on real races. I was hoping you could help me understand.","date_added":"Nov 29th 2013, 8:25pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"dra","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=53089","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/drarcher.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1334077"},"925391":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"925391","comment_id":"925391","member_id":"43715","comment":"

<\/a>drarcher, on , said:<\/p>

\nI'm just curious why Texas gets looked at as "down" and only has one team on the list? Why have we not seen 5A state champion Southlake Carroll on the list? Or The Woodlands? I was at the Nike South Invitational back in October and watched #1 Great Oak from California compete with the Texas girls and they finished just ahead of Southlake Carroll and behind The Woodlands?
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\nSouthlake Carroll and The Woodlands have both been nationally ranked at some point this year.
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\nThey are not ranked this week because as far as I can tell they didn't run well enough to get ranked.
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\nDoug is right: Some teams are better now than they were mid-season, so looking at a mid-season meet doesn't necessarily give you the full picture of how good the teams are today. Most of those teams have improved to some extent, but some more than others. The rankings are based very heavily on recent meets (in particular, the NXR and State meets)","date_added":"Nov 29th 2013, 7:54pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"925367":{"pb_id":"10145","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"925367","comment_id":"925367","member_id":"10145","comment":"Great Oak only ran 4 of their current top 7 due to injuries. We are now healthy and fully fit and showing what we look like with our best 7 on the line. In our program we are focused on running our best races at the end of the season so we were not even close to fully fit then.
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\nGo to Tullyrunners website and check the speed ratings to get a feel for where your team stacks up. Provide a link to the race where you think your girls should be ranked. They look at that data and if it moves you into the top 25 by the numbers, it eventually will. I'm sure Southlake Caroll will run much better than top 20 at nationals based on their performance last year at NXN.
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\nTeam comparisons from mid season meets don't always show what teams can do at the end of the season. We were 7th at Woodbridge with a similar team to what we ran in Texas. We are considerably faster now with our full team.
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\nGood luck and hopefully we will also qualify to nationals. :)
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\nDoug","date_added":"Nov 29th 2013, 7:25pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Doug Soles","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=10145","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/Doug-Soles.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"12696"},"925345":{"pb_id":"53089","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"925345","comment_id":"925345","member_id":"53089","comment":"I'm just curious why Texas gets looked at as "down" and only has one team on the list? Why have we not seen 5A state champion Southlake Carroll on the list? Or The Woodlands? I was at the Nike South Invitational back in October and watched #1 Great Oak from California compete with the Texas girls and they finished just ahead of Southlake Carroll and behind The Woodlands?","date_added":"Nov 29th 2013, 6:22pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"dra","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=53089","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/drarcher.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1334077"},"925172":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"925172","comment_id":"925172","member_id":"43715","comment":"

<\/a>brr, on , said:<\/p>

\nCurious as to why Bellarmine Prep is ranked #27 and Coeur d'Alene #16 when Bellarmineprep handily beat them at NXN-NW regionals placing 2nd to their 4th. I also noticed this in this in the latest regional rankings.
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\nCoeur d'Alene was without one of their scorers (their #2) at NXN-NW.
\n
\nThere are a few cases where teams don't line up with what place they finished at their NXN Regional meet - in all those cases, teams ranked higher than they finished were without at least one scorer.","date_added":"Nov 28th 2013, 8:43pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"925159":{"pb_id":"52949","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"925159","comment_id":"925159","member_id":"52949","comment":"Curious as to why Bellarmine Prep is ranked #27 and Coeur d'Alene #16 when Bellarmineprep handily beat them at NXN-NW regionals placing 2nd to their 4th. I also noticed this in this in the latest regional rankings.","date_added":"Nov 28th 2013, 7:18pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"brr","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=52949","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=52949","pb_wally_id":"1335563"},"924958":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"924958","comment_id":"924958","member_id":"43715","comment":"

<\/a>Devyyn_MRunner15, on , said:<\/p>

\nCorrection: Fort Collins Cross Country Club won the southwest region. They won 73 to 74 due to the fifth runner of fcxc beat davis's fifth runner by .01 seconds. Corrections should have been made to the results
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\nYou are absolutely right. My apologies, I thought I originally had it that way, I must have switched them at some point.
\n
\nThanks for catching the mistake!
\n
\nDoug (or someone with the appropriate privileges), can you switch those teams around? Fort Collins #4 and Davis #5, with the appropriate NXN-Southwest notation?
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\nEDIT: Fixed now. Again, thanks for catching that! and sorry for not getting it right the first time :(","date_added":"Nov 27th 2013, 10:44pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"924951":{"pb_id":"50453","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"924951","comment_id":"924951","member_id":"50453","comment":"Correction: Fort Collins Cross Country Club won the southwest region. They won 73 to 74 due to the fifth runner of fcxc beat davis's fifth runner by .01 seconds. Corrections should have been made to the results","date_added":"Nov 27th 2013, 10:28pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Devyyn_MRunner15","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=50453","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/Devyyn-MRunner15.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1206606"},"924976":{"pb_id":"3026","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"924951","pid":"924976","comment_id":"924976","member_id":"3026","comment":"The results on the NXN site are correct. We'll get the results on DyeStat corrected ASAP.","date_added":"Nov 27th 2013, 11:28pm","nest":1,"liked":false,"member":{"wally_id":"35","email_settings":"7168","email":"chrisnickinson@gmail.com","address":"chrisnickinson","gender":"m","member_id":"3026","member_name":"Chris Nickinson","avatar_location":"av-3026.jpg","avatar_type":"upload","avatar":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-3026.jpg"},"can_delete":false,"item_id":196584,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-3026.jpg","pb_title":"Chris Nickinson","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=3026","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/chrisnickinson.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"35"}},"last_id":"924951","url":"comments.php?item_type=news&item_id=196584&item_url=gprofile.php?mgroup_id=44531"}