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Regional Rankings - Southwest - 10-10 - XC - DyeStat -2013

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DyeStat.com   Oct 10th 2013, 7:52am
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DyeStat Regional XC Team Rankings

2013 Release Dates: Preseason - Sept 26 - Oct 10 - Oct 24 - Nov 7 - Nov 21
by Rob "Watchout" Monroe

Utah teams hold top spots in Southwest

Oct 10

 

Southwest Boys

1. American Fork UT (previous rank 1)

2. Lone Peak UT (2)

3. Bingham UT (4)

4. Corona Del Sol AZ (NR)

5. Mountain Vista CO (3)

Southwest Girls

1. Davis UT (1)

2. Park City UT (2)

3. Fort Collins CO (3)

4. Monarch CO (NR)

5. Desert Vista AZ (NR)



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altaxc

watchout, on , said:

In short, no. I don't think the state field will be big enough for it to become the predominant factor, and still fairly doubtful it will be a HUGE difference at the regional level. Maybe the difference between SW#2 and SW#5 if it ends up being a tight race, but the #2-4 runners are the biggest keys to finishing well at NXN Regionals and Nationals.

By the way, just pulled this up: Utah 5A Projected scores (including only teams that will make it to state, and teams that I have been keeping track of) ... does not include results from regional meets that have already taken place. Obviously, when the rest of the teams are included in the field, scores for teams with weaker #3/4/5 runners are going to go up by more than those teams that are strong at those spots, but for a general starting point this shows that the race for second is very tight, and the race for fourth is going to be just as tight (and those groups aren't separated by enough to think Westlake couldn't finish second, for example.. Alta is a bit more of a stretch, but still in the running if they put it together on the same day at state while others don't).

44 American Fork UT
88 Lone Peak UT
90 Bingham UT
105 Riverton UT
113 Davis UT
122 Westlake UT
151 Alta UT
214 Hillcrest UT


I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Alta will finish higher than 7th. These rankings and predictions are definitely motivational though.
Kedge
Watchout, let me know if you need access to some Abq. Academy results. With a solid front runner and some depth it looks like we could be movers and shakers over the next month or so.
altaxc

watchout, on , said:

In short, no. I don't think the state field will be big enough for it to become the predominant factor, and still fairly doubtful it will be a HUGE difference at the regional level. Maybe the difference between SW#2 and SW#5 if it ends up being a tight race, but the #2-4 runners are the biggest keys to finishing well at NXN Regionals and Nationals.

By the way, just pulled this up: Utah 5A Projected scores (including only teams that will make it to state, and teams that I have been keeping track of) ... does not include results from regional meets that have already taken place. Obviously, when the rest of the teams are included in the field, scores for teams with weaker #3/4/5 runners are going to go up by more than those teams that are strong at those spots, but for a general starting point this shows that the race for second is very tight, and the race for fourth is going to be just as tight (and those groups aren't separated by enough to think Westlake couldn't finish second, for example.. Alta is a bit more of a stretch, but still in the running if they put it together on the same day at state while others don't).

44 American Fork UT
88 Lone Peak UT
90 Bingham UT
105 Riverton UT
113 Davis UT
122 Westlake UT
151 Alta UT
214 Hillcrest UT


Hillcrest is 4A.
Wolverine01
Very interesting, thanks. It looks like state will be a great race
watchout
In short, no. I don't think the state field will be big enough for it to become the predominant factor, and still fairly doubtful it will be a HUGE difference at the regional level. Maybe the difference between SW#2 and SW#5 if it ends up being a tight race, but the #2-4 runners are the biggest keys to finishing well at NXN Regionals and Nationals.

By the way, just pulled this up: Utah 5A Projected scores (including only teams that will make it to state, and teams that I have been keeping track of) ... does not include results from regional meets that have already taken place. Obviously, when the rest of the teams are included in the field, scores for teams with weaker #3/4/5 runners are going to go up by more than those teams that are strong at those spots, but for a general starting point this shows that the race for second is very tight, and the race for fourth is going to be just as tight (and those groups aren't separated by enough to think Westlake couldn't finish second, for example.. Alta is a bit more of a stretch, but still in the running if they put it together on the same day at state while others don't).

44 American Fork UT
88 Lone Peak UT
90 Bingham UT
105 Riverton UT
113 Davis UT
122 Westlake UT
151 Alta UT
214 Hillcrest UT
Wolverine01
What do you think about the gap between Bingham's 4h and 5th runners? Is it big enough to hurt them in a large race like state or nxn?
pcxctc

watchout, on , said:

Because Lone Peak ran so well at Wasatch (though I'll be reviewing the ratings for that race again this week).

Don't be surprised if Bingham is ahead of Lone Peak in the next regional update, however - they've been gaining ground, and eventually Bingham's consistency will overtake Lone Peak's inconsistent tendencies, and that's especially likely at the state meet and beyond (when consistency begins to REALLY matter).


The State Meet should settle the debate. Thanks for doing the rankings. Kids like seeing them, and I think it's a motivator for the teams that are in there, and for the teams that think they should be in there. Benefits to everyone involved.
watchout
Because Lone Peak ran so well at Wasatch (though I'll be reviewing the ratings for that race again this week).

Don't be surprised if Bingham is ahead of Lone Peak in the next regional update, however - they've been gaining ground, and eventually Bingham's consistency will overtake Lone Peak's inconsistent tendencies, and that's especially likely at the state meet and beyond (when consistency begins to REALLY matter).
Wolverine01
So why is Bingham still ranked lower than Lone Peak? Thoughts?
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